MarieChan
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Post by MarieChan on Jul 21, 2007 22:17:29 GMT -5
This always seems to be something I approach with mixed feelings. I guess on conclusion, I am pro-choice, as women are entitled to their own bodies, even if another is growing inside. However, it seems the problem is debating where life begins and the significance of developing life.
Abstinence, birth control and many other methods can be used to prevent pregnancy. However, sometimes the condoms and pills fail, does that then make the women irresponsible? I think not, as accidents can happen, and sex is a natural process that if done safely shouldn't be suppressed more than need to be. But then there are those who have sex on a whim, using abortion as the only contraceptive when there are so many options. I would say only in that scenario would I discourage abortion entirely, as it would only encourage women to not have safe sex.
And of course, there are issues of rape and drugged victims, instances when the woman can't give consent to sex. I would definitely think that they should have a choice whether to carry the baby or not, as contraception to begin with wasn't their choice.
Anyways, I would have more thoughts on it but it's late; I will wrap up the post here and let others put in their thoughts.
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Post by minx.eh on Jul 23, 2007 22:23:58 GMT -5
Maire Chan there are different types of abortion and different reasons why.
The Good Type: The child is removed before it actually begins to develop a brain and body parts from the mother's womb. The child isn't really a child in this instance for its only an embryo in which theres a chance the mother can start her menstrual period and the child is miscarried or other types. This is something I think is alright only if the child could be life threatening or the child has no chance to survive.
The Bad Type: The woman lives for months with the child in her womb then decides to get rid of it. They go to the doctor and they use a machine or something that kills the brain of the child. This is wrong, if they really didn't want the child they should have done something earlier about the child before it began to develop and live. This is murder, at least I think it is. This is the type that should be illegal.
Good Reasons: 1) Rape Victim 2) It is a risk to the mother's life 3) Before the recommended age pregnancy (The child only has a 50% chance) 4) Prostitution (This child would be in a bad family)
Other than that there really shouldn't be a reason. If you just don't want the child give it up to adoption. There are many good families who just can't have kids and would love to raise your baby in a warm, caring home.
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Post by Kuronue on Jul 24, 2007 9:53:42 GMT -5
I urge people to remember that this is a very serious topic I hear of people who have done that only to find out it wasn't what they truly desired, of course by this time its too late. I agree if the child is not gonna make it or its a danger not worth the odds.
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MarieChan
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Post by MarieChan on Jul 25, 2007 14:58:51 GMT -5
Not sure, sometimes a child can be quite well developed before they see a complication. One instance I would like to note is this story, in which the child aborted was developing spina bifeda: www.ourbodiesourselves.org/book/companion.asp?id=20&compID=39Sometimes a baby becomes developed, but a complication turns up in pregnancy... :<
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Post by minx.eh on Jul 25, 2007 16:01:11 GMT -5
Yeah, thats a good reason too. Its just theres certain types of abortion that break my heart.
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Post by MarieChan on Jul 25, 2007 17:47:36 GMT -5
Yeah, but that one kinda shown that the kid was developed but if born would have quite a tragic life filled with surgery and uncertainty of death x:
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Post by Kuronue on Jul 25, 2007 19:27:51 GMT -5
The will can be a strong thing.
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Post by MarieChan on Jul 25, 2007 22:01:06 GMT -5
Ah, yes, but at the same time it's a very risky thing, and I am certain few would be enthused about raising a child that would be suffering most of its life. :< It's sad but it's true.
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Post by Kuronue on Jul 26, 2007 13:53:40 GMT -5
Words can hurt more than diseases remember that.
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Post by MarieChan on Jul 26, 2007 20:00:21 GMT -5
It depends on the disease and how you take words. I for one can take words pretty fine, but I have a low tolerance for physical pain. We all react differently x:
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Post by minx.eh on Jul 26, 2007 21:25:07 GMT -5
My little brother is special needed. He's had autism since he was very little. He was a miracle baby!! He has no pulse on one side of his neck and he's about 2 years behind what people his age are at. We're not that far in age apart, but because of his mental problems we have schooling very far apart. He's just now starting 7th grade and I did his school binder and everything for him. He's only going to be is the SDD class though...
We've had people in the house ever since we were very small. Ever since he was 2 months old he's had people there to help him become a normal person so he can take care of himself later in life. So for about 14 out of almost 18 years of my life we had people at our house from 8 am to about 5 pm teaching him skills. They even went to school with him. Now he's doing a lot better, and his tutors have left.
He didn't get out of the hospital until he was 2 months old. As I said, he was a miracle baby.l
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